Imagine your mom saying this stuff! Vanderpump Rules star Katie Maloney-Schwartz got candid about what one would call her “ho days” with friend and costar Brittany Cartwright and her employer and costar Lisa Vanderpump (who is basically a second matriarch) couldn’t help but chime in about her own experiences in the dating scene. Turns out, the 58-year-old restauranteur had a wild past all her own.

“Ho days? Well, of course [I had them], before I was married,” Lisa admitted on the Vanderpump Rules season 7 after show on March 4. “But I didn’t meet somebody, sleep with them, get drunk and never see them again.”

The English entrepreneur married her longtime husband, Ken Todd, in 1982, so it’s definitely been a minute since her “ho” side has seen the light of day — definitely way longer than Katie, who admitted to hooking up with her BFF and costar Kristen Doute‘s boyfriend, Brian Carter, a.k.a. Carter.

“I was at a club with some friends, it was a birthday and I met Carter. And then I slept with him,” the 32-year-old SURver explained, when Lisa piped up with shock, “What? You slept with Carter? Since you’ve been married?!”

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Though the timeline seemed a little too complicated to get into deep detail, the Pucker & Pout blogger confirmed that the experience went down “two years before” she met her now-husband and longtime boyfriend, Tom Schwartz. The couple got married in August 2016 and their nuptials were the subject of an entire episode of Pump Rules. The timeframe Katie mentioned would also put the incident about seven years prior to Kristen and Carter’s relationship — phew!

“Thank God for that. I nearly went into cardiac arrest,” Lisa ragged on Katie a little bit before the waitress turned reality star dished that she had a “great single life.”

TBH, it seems like Lisa did too — she just did things a bit differently.