When it comes to relationships, Kelly Clarkson does not hold back. The singer shared some juicy details regarding her five-year marriage to hubby Brandon Blackstock and it’s not what you’d expect.

During her Facebook live on Tuesday, Nov. 13, Kelly revealed that marriage isn’t as picturesque as it looks from the outside. When a fan sought advice and asked Kelly how she manages to not keep score in the relationship, Kelly confessed it’s a learning process for everyone.

“I don’t think it’s a score. I think it’s keeping a tally of how many discussions you’ve had, I think it’s that,” she said. “Honestly it goes both ways. Like my husband feels like he constantly needs to talk about the same thing; I feel like the same thing with him. There’s always things you’re working on.”

Despite the fact that she has a pretty good relationship with her husband, the singer admitted that it’s not always a walk in the park. “If I sat here and told you that everything was perfect, that’d be a damn lie in anybody’s relationship. But you have to work at it,” she said.

The pop star credited her successful marriage to timing. The two met “later in life” and started dating when she was 30 years old. “You’re already an evolved human. You already got, kind of a good grasp of who you are [in your thirties].”

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Throughout her Q&A live stream, the “Since U Been Gone” singer stressed the importance of enjoying your twenties and not rushing love. When a fan asked if 22 is too young to get married, Kelly shouted out, “Yes! Your twenties are such an instrumental part of building your character.”

However, she recognized there are some exceptions in marrying young. “Somebody said this to me a long time ago — family, friends, finance, and faith… If you do not have at least two of those in common, walk away ’cause it ain’t gonna work,” she said. “Maybe if you’re 22 and have at least two of those, then OK.”

Maybe she just provided the recipe for a happy marriage!